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Tuesday, November 10, 2009

NAZNET MODERATOR HANS DEVENTER SUPPORTS INFANT BAPTISM OVER ADULT BAPTISM

J. Grant Swank, Jr.


Deventer states it clearly: “I've changed from one who supported adult baptism to one who now supports infant baptism.”


This is another example on theologically liberal based Naznet of stirring up disagreement and contention within the Church of the Nazarene.


What gospel benefit is Deventer’s input when the primary energy of the church should be preaching salvation while the world slugs it out for hell’s gain?


Hans Deventer delights in planting division on that site. Other site overseers join him daily.


In another venue, Deventer blatantly proclaimed that hell is not eternal torment but annihilation. This is a travesty. This is not Nazarene teaching. This is not Nazarene doctrinal heritage. This is not Bible.


Deventer knows that his heresy is a slam against Jesus’ own teachings concerning everlasting damnation promised the unsaved.


Check it out: NAZNET MODERATOR HANS DEVENTER NIXES ETERNAL HELL. HE’S NAZARENE? at http://grantswank.blogtownhall.com/2009/11/10/naznet_moderator_hans_deventer_nixes_eternal_hell_he%E2%80%99s_nazarene.thtml


In another site slot, Deventer endorses biblical errancy, that is, the divine revelation being fraught with errors.


Biblical inerrancy has been the foundational grounding of the Church of the Nazarene since its inception. Now the likes of Deventer spook the church with suspicions off the charts. He will answer to the God who revealed the perfect Word when Deventer stands at the Judgment Seat of Christ.


Psalm 19:7 states: “The law of the Lord [is] perfect, converting the soul.”


James 1:25 states: “But whoever looks into the perfect law of liberty, and continues [therein], he being not a forgetful hearer, but a doer of the work, this man shall be blessed in his deed.”


Check it out: NAZNET SAYS BIBLE NOT 100% NO-ERROR RELIABLE at http://grantswank.blogtownhall.com/2009/11/10/naznet_says_bible_not_100_no-error_reliable.thtml


Now Deventer declares that infant baptism is superior to believers’ adult baptism. It is superior in his view or he would not have changed.


In the Church of the Nazarene there are those clergy who infrequently for various reasons will baptize infants. That has been officiated without contention. However, the primary modes have been sprinkling, pouring and immersion for adults who testify to being saved.


In the denomination there is the customary dedication of infants. This is biblical sense for the parents dedicate their little ones to the Lord, promising to rear their offspring in the ways of a biblical lifestyle.


In Scripture there is absolutely no outright data of infants being baptized though liturgical conclaves read into one verse or another same. Reading into verses is not equal to a verse clearly stating a truth.


Again, there is not one Scripture passage stating that an infant is baptized. All Scripture passages concerning Christian baptism relate to those who profess to accepting Christ as Savior. They, as mature thinking persons, have made a conscious choice to receive divine mercy in salvation.


Now Deventer ups the infant non-biblical position against the adult biblical position. Such hubris. But that is not a surprise when reading Deventer’s iconoclastic proclamations on NazNet.


Yet NazNet states itself to be a companion to the Church of the Nazarene. In reality it is not.


It is a breeding ground for egocentric, theologically opportunistic intellectual-wannabes. These seek to supplant the Nazarene heritage with a liberal stance that eventually will split the denomination into splinters.


Why the church prime leaders from Kansas City headquarters onward through district and regional levels don’t speak out against this divisive intention is beyond reason. It can only by the political network that continues to turn away from truth.


Read other troubling matters related to NazNet:


NAZNET’S CHAPLAIN MODERATOR KEEPS ‘GAY MARRIAGE’ IN THE CLOSET at http://grantswank.blogtownhall.com/2009/11/10/naznet%E2%80%99s_chaplain_moderator_keeps_%E2%80%98gay_marriage%E2%80%99_in_the_closet.thtml


NAZNET’S CHAPLAIN MODERATOR BARBARA MOULTON DRAWS SPIKED REACTIONS at http://grantswank.blogtownhall.com/2009/11/10/naznet%E2%80%99s_chaplain_moderator_barbara_moulton_draws_spiked_reactions.thtml


NAZNET WEBSITE UNFAIR at http://www.michnews.com/J_Grant_Swank_Jr/jgs110609.shtml

NAZNET SAYS BIBLE NOT 100% NO-ERROR RELIABLE

J. Grant Swank, Jr.


Once again, NazNet sets forth the liberal position.


Yet NazNet claims to be a friend to the evangelical, holiness Church of the Nazarene. Obviously, per numerous posts on its site, it is no friend.


It is popular on NazNet, particularly by site overseers, to support a Bible not fully reliable.


NazNet basically claims the Word of God is errant. That is, it has errors in it.


Therefore, one is left to pick and choose what is error and what is not error. Imagine the hubris of the mortal, especially in deciphering the divine revelation.


NazNet Manager G. R. ‘Scott’ Cundiff supports the errant position of Dr. C.S. Cowles of Point Loma Nazarene University. Cowles puts forth his thesis here: http://www.naznet.com/inerrant.htm


Cowles’ presentation is entitled: “Scriptural Inerrancy? ‘Behold, I Show You A More Excellent Way’: An Open Letter by C. S. Cowles / Spring, 2009 Point Loma Nazarene University.”


NazNet Moderator Hans Deventer echoes Cundiff’s praise for Cowles’ lecture that the Scriptures have errors in them. Hans says regarding Cundiff’s writing: “I have only one comment: WOW! Thank you, Dr. Cowles. This is a keeper.”


There can be no doubt that NazNet fosters biblical errancy. There is no doubt that NazNet encourages theological liberalism.


In addition, for more liberal positions, note: NazNet Chaplain Moderator Barbara Moulton states her preference for not taking into the openthe biblical position on homosexuality.


She states that she will not champion God’s position on the subject by defending God’s position in public. She will permit homosexuals to take over media coverage, for example. But she herself will keep her opinion in the closet.


In other words, it must not be nice or Christian to support in the marketplace the biblical stance regarding homosexual practice.


Read more: NAZNET’S CHAPLAIN MODERATOR KEEPS ‘GAY MARRIAGE’ IN THE CLOSET at http://grantswank.blogtownhall.com/2009/11/10/naznet%E2%80%99s_chaplain_moderator_keeps_%E2%80%98gay_marriage%E2%80%99_in_the_closet.thtml


In addition, Moderator Hans Deventer states that Jesus was wrong when declaring hell is “eternal torment.” Deventer states the correct view is to proclaim that unbelievers are annihilated upon death.


Read more: NAZNET MODERATOR HANS DEVENTER NIXES ETERNAL HELL. HE’S NAZARENE? at http://grantswank.blogtownhall.com/


Obviously, when one holds to biblical errancy, one can stray from the biblical ethic and moral base. That moves right into the theological liberal mode of writing your own holy writ, such being done throughout NazNet.


What those of us who hold to inerrancy do is think deeply about biblical research rather than lie down to say Quit. Saying Quit opens up Pandora’s Box for whatever one wants. That leads to theological anarchy.


It is also just what Satan would want for a holiness denomination once aligned solidly behind the Bible as the infallible divine revelation. NazNet fosters canceling out this Nazarene heritage for theological opportunism.


Behind it all is hubris, Eden’s first sin.


If the Church of the Nazarene continues endorsing this position, the denomination will unravel to lose the divine blessing. It will come under the divine curse as the liberal denominations are experiencing today.


Here is an example of thinking deeply through the biblical data.


The following centers on the harsh penalties of the Old Testament in light of the New Testament’s love ethic: BIBLE HARSH PENALTIES & CHRIST’S ETHIC at http://grantswank.blogtownhall.com/2009/11/10/bible_harsh_penalties__christ%E2%80%99s_ethic_2.thtml


Those who, like NazNet, follow Cowles are cowards in that they lie down to whimper Quit.


Genuine biblical researchers don’t do that. The biblical scholars in the past who were loyal to the inerrant divine revelation did not say Quit.


Those biblical researchers today who are loyal to the inerrant divine revelation do not say Quit.


Be forewarned: NazNet is no friend to the Church of the Nazarene. It is theologically liberal based, not holiness-conservative in its primary direction.

Monday, November 9, 2009

NAZNET MODERATOR HANS DEVENTER NIXES ETERNAL HELL. HE’S NAZARENE?

J. Grant Swank, Jr.


In his own words: “I believe that hell is annihilation.” Check it out here: http://www.naznet.com/community/showthread.php?t=28935


Clear words. Simple words. Definitions understood without commentary.


Hans Deventer is moderator of a supposed Church of the Nazarene supportive site per the site’s own “advertisement.”


The Church of the Nazarene has never preached that hell is annihilation. I was born into that denomination and have graduated from that church’s seminary, having graduated from that church’s liberal arts college.


I have never heard any professor, preacher or evangelist claim that “hell is annihilation.”


Jesus never stated that hell is annihilation. Instead, he stated just the opposite. Hell is everlasting torment for the damned.


That is why the traditional Church of the Nazarene proclaimed that hell is eternal torment for that denomination sought to underline exactly what the Bible states. That denomination was not known for diverting from the Word, that is, until Hans came along with his theologically liberal colleagues on NazNet.


NazNet, to use Hans as an example, seeks to stir up confusion though the site claims just the opposite as its reason for being. It needs readers. It needs responders. Therefore, it moves into that which is contentious in order to get readers.


It’s the same with Hans’ opinion that infant baptism is his okay-baptism. He states in another venue that he once believed in believers’ adult baptism; however, he’s now an advocate for infant baptism.


Spin the theologically liberal bottle once again, Hans.


Yet you still state that you are supportive of the Church of the Nazarene? Not so. You are supportive of your place on the NazNet site that you hope will supplant the historic Church of the Nazarene teaching by claiming it worn out. The past is “old hat.”


Whether it is annihilation or infant baptism, these two examples are just two of others that seek to plant, particularly in the young readers, questions regarding the denomination’s heretofore biblical proclamations.


NazNet is not then a friend to the traditional history of the Church of the Nazarene. It is a rebel.


Hans and NazNet overseers are out to be popular, not to be theologically biblical or friends of the Church of the Nazarene. Therefore, the Church of the Nazarene leadership should come out in defense of biblical doctrine, exposing NazNet as not a genuine companion.


So, Hans, you join liberals in prostituting Scripture to your own opinions, such as your definition of hell as annihilation. You knew from the start that you were handling a basic biblical teaching that you were subverting. But for your own personal popularity and your site’s increased readership, you took the gamble of toying with the Word.


Of course, you will answer for this from God for He will not tolerate those who twist and turn His revelation in order to suit their own egocentric aims. Opportunistic you, as well as your other site overseers, may think you are the new gurus for the Church of the Nazarene. But you are not.


Using the Bible as evidence, you are not friends to the Church of the Nazarene.


As a troubling postscript, Hans also states this set of confusing words: “The Bible isn't clear about the intermediate state.”


The biblical Protestant does not believe in an “intermediate state.” Biblical believers know that the Word teaches that at death the soul goes to heaven or hell. There is no middle state—the “intermediate state.”


Roman Catholicism and some other liturgical conclaves teach an intermediate state. Catholic teaching has traditionally taught a limbo space for unbaptized infants who die. Catholic teaching also has taught a purgatory, an “intermediate state.”


However, the Church of the Nazarene specifically has never believed in limbo or purgatory or any other “place” called “intermediate state.”


I personally believe that Hans does not know what he is talking about on various points in his post here: http://www.naznet.com/community/showthread.php?t=28935


He truly is not theologically knowledgeable so as to monitor an evangelical holiness site.


Yet he continues on NazNet’s claimed-to-be supportive site for the Church of the Nazarene.


Not sound. Not true.


For further digressions from the Church of the Nazarene’s biblical past, read: NAZNET’S CHAPLAIN MODERATOR BARBARA MOULTON DRAWS SPIKED REACTIONS at http://www.allvoices.com/contributed-news/4578553


FOOTNOTE: GOD WARNS OF ETERNAL HELL


The Bible teaches that there is a fiery everlasting hell, a place that Jesus warned people about. Note this sampling of Scripture:


“And if your hand or your foot causes you to stumble, cut it off and throw it from you; it is better for you to enter life crippled or lame, than having two hands or two feet, to be cast into the eternal fire,” (Matt. 18:8)


“. . .these will go away into eternal punishment, but the righteous into eternal life” (Matt. 25:46)


Jesus says: “Depart from me, you cursed, into everlasting fire. . .” (Matthew 25:41)


“22 . . . the rich man also died, and was buried;
23 And in hell he lift up his eyes, being in torments, and saw Abraham afar off, and Lazarus in his bosom.
24 And he cried and said, Father Abraham, have mercy on me, and send Lazarus, that he may dip the tip of his finger in water, and cool my tongue; for I am tormented in this flame.
25 But Abraham said, Son, remember that you in your lifetime received good things, and likewise Lazarus evil things: but now he is comforted, and you art tormented.
26 And beside all this, between us there is a great gulf fixed: so that they which would pass from hence to you cannot; neither can they pass to us, that would come from thence.
27 Then he said, I pray you therefore, father, that you would send him to my father’s house:
28 For I have five brethren; that he may testify unto them, lest they also come into this place of torment. (Luke 16:22-28)”

US FREEDOM OF SPEECH: MUSLIM REVOLUTION

J. Grant Swank, Jr.


Muslims take full advantage of America’s freedom of speech to broadcast the Revolution Muslim cultic line per their own street vendors’ open season.


Note video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WhHYiWCm8Gs


This is youthful Islamics advocating Koran extinction of non-Muslims, this stated on America’s sidewalks.


What will Marxist Muslim Barack Hussein Obama say about this videocast? Muslim Obama will say nothing denouncing this advocate to overthrow our democracy for it is his brethren preaching revolution.


Note: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tCAffMSWSzY&feature=player_embedded


These videos speak for themselves.


America, wake up. Demand that the Oval Office speak up for democracy, America’s Christian heritage, and abhorrence for all that would tear apart our Republic.

Sunday, November 8, 2009

OBAMACARE: 50 MILLION PATIENTS UP. DOCS LACK

J. Grant Swank, Jr.


"The brain drain."


They get their medical education in Canada then pick up their paychecks in the US. Been going on for years. Still going on.

Canada does not have enough doctors. That means the dreaded "wait list."


A male cousin living in New Brunswick told me that much of his day is sitting in a hospital's personnel room, not in the surgical theater. Why? Because his patient has been put on the "wait list." That means that surgeon has to wait.


His wife is a medical doctor. When I mentioned the "wait list" to her, she looked at me as if I were alarmed. But I was alarmed. However, to her it is a way of professional wasteland she has been schooled into. If she in day-to-day routine got alarmed about it she would go unbalanced.


"I'm on the wait list," a relative in Nova Scotia told me. That struck fear.


If Obama's Whacko Health Blanket smothers America, the US will not have enough doctors.


All of a sudden fifty million new patients. Where are the medical professionals to care for this floodsweep? They don't exist. Then comes the "wait list." Long weeks, months, perhaps years. No kidding. One Nova Scotian friend had to wait four years to get a pacemaker!


In those four years she often was near death's door. Thankfully, she did not breathe her last.


Furthermore, Obamacare means that Medicare is going to pain maximum. That means that elderly who in particular need care are going to go wanting. They are five hundred billion dollars sliced out of Medicare if Marxist Muslim Obama gets his scheme in destroying our Republic.


My mother was in a luxurious health care unit in Texas. She was 96. Now that facility is imploding. There is one CNA for two wings. Long-standing nurses' name signs are no longer posted outside their prior offices. And so forth.


Mother then was cared for in a doctor-owned facility. Then she received proper treatment.


But if the Obama Whack Plan is cemented, these doctors will be worked flat out.


The bottom line regarding Obamangst is that people who need medical attention will not have a professional to help them. Those in the US will be logged on the "wait list." Wait wait wait. Will they die before they get the medical aid they need? Perhaps. It happens every day in Canada.


This same travesty goes on in UK constantly. When visiting in Ireland, our host and hostess told us that she had to be put on the "wait list." They said it as a matter of fact for it has been woven into the lifestyle there. It is no longer recited sadly for even that emotion has deflated.


Does the US want this flatout squash?


America will implode as mother's previous facility is imploding as I type.


America, wake up!

NAZNET’S CHAPLAIN MODERATOR BARBARA MOULTON DRAWS SPIKED REACTIONS

J. Grant Swank, Jr.


NazNet chaplain moderator Barbara Moulton stated to me: “. . .for the record, I do have objections to gay marriage. I don't perform them and will never perform them. I simply am not going to crusade against allowing them to take place in my country.”


I responded: “God help us! So there you have it. Simple words that convey just what they say. No doubt as to what she believes. Nothing there to quibble about.”


She’s “not going to crusade against them (‘gay marriages’) allowing them to take place in my country.” There you have it, believing friends.


NazNet has a chaplain moderator who permits the homosexuals to get full coverage day and night while she hides away in the site’s underground. There can be no other conclusion reached than that she is a religious coward overseeing a site that claims to be elitistically alluring.


Not so.


For more, read NAZNET’S CHAPLAIN MODERATOR KEEPS ‘GAY MARRIAGE’ IN THE CLOSET at http://www.allvoices.com/contributed-news/4574089


Those reading this responded with their own angst:


“Barbara Moulton is following in the steps of those German Lutherans who sang their hymns in their PC insulated churches while the wheels of the box trains carrying Jewish families to their deaths kept to the rhythm of their religious songs.


“Don't crusade against any sin, Barbara! but ‘gain the whole world’ of prestige and position; however, don't forget the second part of that verse!”


And. . .


“Hi Grant,
I have been reading your posts about Naznet with interest and also a sad heart. For those of us who poured our hearts out with loving compassion pastoring our churches and stressing the importance of heart holiness, it is sad to witness decline of any type. As you well know, we are going to be attacked for taking our stands for that which is true and just. God bless! Keep on keeping on.”


And. . .


“. . .chaos and confusion! These people are nuts. . .”


And. . .


“Is she a coward or what????????????? Naznet tries to make itself out to be socially active.


“Obviously one of its moderators is not that when it comes to putting her biblical convictions in the market place. But that is where it finally counts, isn't it? Naznet is made up of elitist think-themselves-intellectuals with giddy this and that throughout, kissups aplenty.


“But when it comes to moving off the site into the open air, obviously one of the chaplain (!) moderators is not willing to be so bold. Such hypocrisy. Secret discipleship does not count at the eternal throne.”


And. . .


“I had a brief email exchange with Barbara Moulton a couple of years ago regarding a cheap shot she took at Hannity. She is Canadian and, like most non-US types on Naznet, she has no objections to ‘gay marriages’ and finds socialism to be entirely compatible with the Scriptures.


“The ‘upholding the traditional Nazarene standards types’ seemingly has left the Naznet forums during the last 2-3 years. Statements from leaders in Kansas City Nazarene headquarters seem to indicate a similar decaying pattern.”


Read NAZNET WEBSITE UNFAIR at http://www.michnews.com/J_Grant_Swank_Jr/jgs110609.shtml

Saturday, November 7, 2009

HEALTH CARE + ABORTION = CRAZY

J. Grant Swank, Jr.


House Speaker Nancy Pelosi and President Barack Hussein Obama try to appear so compassionate when saying that universal health care will help the nation.


One nasty, sticky point in all that love fest is that it’s not true when writing abortion into health care.


Abortion is murdering innocent babies in female wombs. That is not compassionate. It is evil. It has nothing to do with health. It has all to do with slaying.


The liberals—religious and political—have such a love affair with slaughtering those infants that it is unbelievable, except when considering The Fall. When our first parents disobeyed God, the soul was
severely damaged. Witness pro-choice advocates.


Pelosi and Obama represent that crew that delights in chanting pro-choice. They get absolutely ecstatic about the slaughter scene. They then get red-faced when moralists defend little ones in wombs who end up in dumpsters.


I think of killing-womb-babies champion Joy Behar cackling away on The View. She gets absolutely evangelistic about preaching on behalf of the abortion evil.


Of course, she has stated emphatically she despises “under God” supporters who lobby for that duo remaining in the pledge of allegiance. Why? Because she does not believe in any god.


She told the audience recently she does not believe in an afterlife. “This is it!” she exclaimed most certainly, smiling devilishly.


Joy, name inappropriate, bolsters immoralists who will do everything possible to rid our nation of its Christian heritage moral base. They salivate for secularization total, rivaling Europe’s godlessness.


Now these same cogs who kill the young toil night and day for their pet slide-through—universal health care, even for illegal aliens. Yes, it must be right there on the line for those not legally in the country but at the same time they will slice and dice the babies via that same bill.


How crazy can a body of lawmakers get than to have endorsers of abortion wed their song to helping the grassroots working chap and his wife?


Crazy crazy crazy.


FOOTNTOE: THE BIBLE AND ABORTION


It is alarming to realize the nonchalance on the part of many concerning abortion. But it is not new. A popular newsmagazine quoted one medical opinion: "Abortion is finding its place as a perfectly acceptable and valid health measure. We no longer think of it as a crime."


There are those who say that every woman has a right to control her own body. That is true. Then, having control over her own body, she should not become pregnant if she does not want children. That is control! When she becomes pregnant, then she has lost her control over that situation.


But more importantly, only God has final rights to any person's body. He brought that body into life and someday will take that body out of life. In the meantime He provides the very sustaining power for the body's life to continue.


The Bible speaks of a fetus as a person, not simply tissue that can be discarded if found to be a bother or nuisance. Since the fetus is a person from the moment of conception, then the destroying of the fetus is killing a person.


“In the past, some people have mistakenly speculated that perhaps the body might be in the process of formation for some time, and then 'God breathes a soul into it.' They had it backward. The life that is present forms matter into a body for itself'” (Joseph Breig, "Life Forms Matter," The Catholic News, Jan. 24, 1974, p. 8).


"Your hands shaped me and made me. Will you now turn and destroy me? Remember that you molded me like clay. Will you now turn me to dust again? Did you not pour me out like milk ... and knit me together with bones and sinews? You gave me life and showed me kindness, and in your providence watched over my spirit" (Job 10:8-12 NIV).


"Before I was born the LORD called me; from my birth he has made mention of my name...and now the LORD says--he who formed me in the womb to be his servant..." (Isaiah 49:1, 5).


"The word of the LORD came to me, saying, ‘Before I formed you in the womb I knew you, before you were born I set you apart; I appointed you as a prophet to the nations’" (Jeremiah 1:4-5).


In the following passages we note that personality is ascribed to the unborn.


"For you created my inmost being; you knit me together in my mother's womb. I praise you because I am fearfully and wonderfully made; your works are wonderful, I know that fully well. My frame was not hidden from you when I was made in the secret place. When I was woven together in the depths of the earth, your eyes saw my unformed body. All the days ordained for me were written in your book before one of them came to be" (Psalm 139:13-16).


"Sons are a heritage from the LORD, children a reward from him" (Psalm 127:3).


Exodus 21:22-25 relates how Israel was to judge a circumstance relating to the death of the unborn:


"If men who are fighting hit a pregnant woman and she gives birth prematurely but there is no serious injury, the offender must be fined whatever the woman's husband demands and the court allows. But if there is serious injury, you are to take life for life, eye for eye, tooth for tooth, hand for hand, foot for foot, wound for wound, bruise for bruise."


All of the latter deals with unintentional hurt that comes to a pregnant woman; how much more will divine penalty come upon those who intentionally discard the fetus? The Gospel of Luke ascribes personality to the fetus within Elizabeth:


"When Elizabeth heard Mary's greeting, the baby leaped in her womb, and Elizabeth was filled with the Holy Spirit... As soon as the sound of your greeting reached my ears, the baby in my womb leaped for joy" (1:41, 44).


Mere tissue does not leap for joy; only personhood leaps for joy. The Bible regards the fetus as having personality. In Galatians, Paul speaks of himself as a person while still in his mother's womb, but more a person consecrated by God for a holy mission (compare Jeremiah 1:5 for the same accent):


"But when God, who set me apart from birth, and called me by his grace, was pleased to reveal his Son in me so that I might preach him among the Gentiles..." (Gal. 1: 15-16).


Since the Bible regards the fetus as personality, then the aborting of the fetus is murdering personality.


Some verses from Scripture dealing with murder are then appropriate for study, such as Genesis 9:6: "Whoever sheds the blood of man, by man shall his blood be shed; for in the image of God has God made man." Also, read Exodus 23:7: "Have nothing to do with a false charge, and do not put an innocent or honest person to death, for I will not acquit the guilty." Note I Peter 4:15: "If you suffer, it should not be as a murderer..."


If the Republic returned to the biblical definition of personhood, we would defend every womb child.


John Adams said the following:


"Our Constitution was made only for a religious and moral people. It is wholly inadequate for the government of any other."


Andrew Jackson said the following:


"The BIBLE is the rock on which our Republic rests."


Daniel Webster:


"If we abide by the principles taught in the BIBLE, our country will go on prospering."


"For all the talk of freedom and self-determination, the abortion movement is at its heart a movement denying rights to a silent segment of humanity and soliciting public sanction, support and subsidy to its own cause" (Donald P. Shoemaker, ABORTION, THE BIBLE AND THE CHRISTIAN, Hayes Publishing Co., 1976, p. iv).

NAZNET’S CHAPLAIN MODERATOR KEEPS ‘GAY MARRIAGE’ IN THE CLOSET

J. Grant Swank, Jr.


Is this not puzzling to you as a biblical believer?


NazNet’s moderator, who also tags herself as a chaplain, told me that she is against “gay marriage” but would not take the issue out in public.


This is so like NazNet: opportunistic, conveniently in-house and shallow “Christian.”


Are we not to be lights in the world—not hidden under the bushel?


Are we not to be salt to the earth?


Are we not to be in the world, yet not of the world?


Are we not to allow ourselves to be hated for the cause of Christ rather than carve out hideaways for safe cover?


How interesting that the open homosexuals take to the marketplace, boulevards, church pulpits, and anywhere they can find foothold.


But Ms. Barbara Moulton, chaplain moderator on NazNet, would have the biblical believer not go where scriptural convictions air. She’s not going to go in open space to state that God considers “gay marriage” no place in marriage.


Yet NazNet prides itself on being contemporary Christian. It says in so many words, “Come to us to talk out the latest and act out the boldest.”


However, one of its own moderators is so cowardly as to state to me that she does not intend on taking the homosexual issue into the open.


This is a direct contradiction, Ms. Moulton. You are showing your cowardliness so brashly. You are also revealing your lack of theological understanding when it comes to the Christ ethic of the Gospels.


Christ permits His disciples no place to cower, to compromise the mode as well as the message. Instead, He told His own to go into all the world to preach the gospel. Preaching the gospel is “out there.” It’s where the opposition derides.


Christ never sidestepped the opposition. He went after them. Further, when they came after Him, He was ready—with power, with logic, with separating soul from spirit.


If we are to be like Christ, we are to be of like courage.


Homosexuals taking to the malls and government steps are in our face. Yet you sit there in your comfortable Internet site office having coffee.


That is absolutely insulting to the rest of us who are carrying the cause and cross where it counts—where the enemy is, where the friends are, where Christ is overseeing the fray.


I am stunned today. I am shocked to read what you have stated to me. It is beyond abhorrent. Yet it is right there in front of me. No wonder today’s church is so lame. No wonder its impact is derided as drained.


So it is that you are among the site’s leaders who counsel input daily to others? This is unthinkable.


NazNet chaplain moderator Barbara Moulton states to me: “. . .for the record, I do have objections to gay marriage. I don't perform them and will never perform them. I simply am not going to crusade against allowing them to take place in my country.”


God help us!


So there you have it. Simple words that convey just what they say. No doubt as to what she believes. Nothing there to quibble about.


She’s “not going to crusade against them (“gay marriages”) allowing them to take place in my country.”


There you have it, believing friends.


NazNet has a chaplain moderator who permits the homosexuals to get full coverage day and night while she hides away in the site’s underground. There can be no other conclusion reached than that she is a religious coward overseeing a site that claims to be elitistically alluring.


Not so.

OBAMA STATES HE IS MUSLIM

J. Grant Swank, Jr.


Barack Hussein Obama's stance as a Protestant--theologically liberal in keeping with the United Church of Christ (Congregational)--is a cover for the facts.


The facts are that he is indeed a Muslim by his own words.


He states that he is Muslim, admires his Islamic heritage, and regards highly the nuances of his Koran upbringing. He states his kinship with worldwide Muslims.


There are those who contest this. However, we have on video Obama stating the reality that he is a Muslim, is proud of it, and seemingly has no intention of being otherwise, though the UCC cover remains when convenient.


This should concern every American who seeks to preserve the Christian heritage to this nation.


It is of grave concern to every Republic-loyal citizen, so much so, that we should strive tirelessly to seek his removal from office, hence the work being done to prove he is not a valid US citizen. He should not be President on those grounds alone.


Then we have a liar in the White House. We have a cohort with terrorists. We have one in our midst who is in league with those who would destroy our democracy, hence his czardom and shadow government disregarding present governmental agencies.


Hence his sloppy and unfeeling response to the Muslim who killed at Fort Hood. Obama was entertaining a group at the White House when he got the horrific message regarding Fort Hood.


He put that pressing matter aside and then when addressing the grieving told us all not to "jump to conclusions." His words of comfort to the stricken were frighteningly lame. So we are not to “jump to conclusions”?


Naturally we are going to reach conclusions that stare us in the office, not jumping emotionally but logically. Obviously scared stiff Obama is afraid that our reason will hold sway in the future regarding his actual stance as Muslim.


Now hear from Obama in his words his religious confession that he in reality is a Muslim:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tCAffMSWSzY&feature=player_embedded

Friday, November 6, 2009

ISLAMIC TIMELINE FOR GLOBAL RULE

J. Grant Swank, Jr.


OBSESSION is one of the most informative web sites regarding the deceitful ploys of Islam. Visit it at http://www.honestreporting.com/obsession/whatwecando.htm


On that site, there is provided a time line of Islamic killings and woundings since 1968. Below is an abbreviation of that time line. Read it and be informed.


In July 1968, Popular Front for the Liberation of Palestine (PFLP) hijacked Israeli El Al Airplanes.


In 1970, Palestinian Liberation Organization (PLO) killers attacked bus in West Bank, killing Barbara Ertle of Michigan and wounding two others from the US.


In March 1970, PFLP lodged rockets at US Embassy, Beirut, as well as the American Insurance Company, Bank of America and John F. Kennedy library.


In September 1970, PFLP murderers took hold of four airliners, three of which were blown up.


In March 1972, PFLP engaged the Japanese Red Army to machine-gun and grenade attack Israel’s
main airport. Twenty-six were slain, 78 wounded, many from the US.


In September 1972, Arab killers attacked Olympic Village, Munich, Germany, kidnapping nine Israelis and slaying two others. A grenade slaughtered athletes while others were trying to rescue them. A German policeman is slain. Jews killed totaled eleven.


In 1973, Back September Muslim killers slew US ambassador, Cleo A. Noel, and charge d’affaires and a Belgian diplomat.


In June 1976, Arab killers hijacked an Air France flight from Tel Aviv.


In August 1976, PFLP attacked Israel’s main airline, El Al. Four were slain, 20 injured.


In March 1977, Muslim murderers took 134 hostages near the White House. One is slain, 12 wounded, in the seizing of the Islamic Center, the international headquarters of B’nai Brith and Washington’s City Hall.


In February 1979, the US ambassador to Afghanistan is slain by Afghan militia.


In November 1979, Muslims take over US Embassy in Tehran, Iran; 66 diplomats are held hostage. Also, in that month the US Embassy in Islamabad, Pakistan, is taken by Muslim murderers. The building is set ablaze, killing four.


In June 1981, Muslim killers slay Coptics in their burnt out homes in Egypt. Eighty-one Coptics died with more than a hundred gravely wounded. Eighty houses were destroyed and looted.


In the same month, Anwar Sadat, Egyptian President, was slain by members of the Takfir Wal-Hajira sect. Eight others were murdered at Sadat’s reviewing stand.


In January 1982, Lebanese killers murder American military attache Lt. Col. Charles R. Ray as he leaves his apartment.


In August 1982, PLO killers slay two from the US who were eating out at a Jewish restaurant in Paris.


In the same month, Lebanese murderers slew an American embassy employee by releasing a bomb under his car.


In September 1982, Muslim killers slew Lebanese Prime Minister Bashir Gemayel via a car bomb in Beirut.


In March 1983, five Marines are slain by Islamic Jihad and Al-Amal militia.


In April 1983, an Islamic suicide car-bomber kills 63 at the US Embassy in Beirut. Inured: 120. Islamic Jihad claimed planners of the attack.


In October 1983, 241 US Marines were slain by Islamic Jihad. They were killed in their Beirut barracks. Also, 50 UN peacekeepers were slain at the French military barracks.


In December 1983, Five were killed, 86 wounded in Kuwait City when Islamic killers set off car bombs in front of the US and French embassies.


In January 1984, American University of Beirut Prescient Malcolm Kerr was slain by Islamic Jihad.


In April 1984, eighteen American service personnel were slain by Islamic killers in Torrejon, Spain.


In September 1984, Islamic Jihad damaged the US Embassy in Lebanon, killing two Americans, twenty Americans wounded.


In April 1985, American service personnel were slain by Muslims in Madrid, Spain.


In June 1985, Lebanese Shiite murderers threatened Captain John Testrake in his cockpit of hijacked TWA Flight 847. Muslims kill US Navy diver Robert Stethem, tossing his body around carelessly.


In August 1985, a US soldier is slain by Muslims in Frankfurt.


In October 1985, PLO killers hijack Italian cruise liner. A 69-year-old man is shot in his wheelchair, then thrown overboard in his wheelchair.


In November 1985, EgyptAir Flight 648 is hijacked by Muslim killers. Fifty-eight were slain or burnt alive.


In December 1985, Muslim slayers killed 20 at US and Israeli check-in desks in Rome and Vienna international airports.


In that same month, Abu Nidal’s group seized El Al offices in Rome. Thirteen were slain, five being from the US, 74 wounded.


In May 1986, TWA Flight 840 was shot through, leaving a hole in its side. A bomb explosion was set loose by Arab Revolutionary Cells. Also, four from the US were slain when a bomb exploded on a TWA jet going from Rome to Athens. The ARC claimed responsibility.


In April 1986 Americans were bombed in a West Berlin restaurant.


In September 1986, Muslim killers hijacked Pan Am 747, leaving 20 slain.


In October 1986, an American was murdered by a grenade leveled by Fatah at the Western Wall, Jerusalem.


In February 1989, bookstores in Berkeley, CA were bombed by Muslims in protest of Salman Rushdie’s “The Satanic Verses.”


In March 1989, US Navy Captain Will C. Rogers’ wife is attacked by a car bomb.


In October 1991, Ankara, Turkey, a US soldier is slain and his wife wounded by Turkish Islamic Jihad.


In the same month, a US Air Force sergeant is slain via car bombing with Turkish Islamic Jihad claiming responsibility.


In November 1991, American University, Beirut, administration building is bombed, killing one and wounding over 12 more.


In March 1992, Muslims attack and kill an Archpriest, a Monk, and three laypersons at the St. Mary’s Monastery, El-Mouharak, Asyut.


In that same month, Hizbullah said it blasted the Israeli Embassy in Buenos Aires, Argentina, killing 29, wounding 242.


In October 1992, Islamics attack, destroy and loot homes in El-Qousya, Asyut.


In January 1993, a Palestinian shoots two CIA employees, wounding three others near CIA headquarters, Langley, VA.


In that same month, Ramzi Yousef was judged as heading up the 1993 World Trade Center bombing as well as the 1994 explosion on Philippine Airlines Flight 434.


In February 1993, six were killed by Islamic murderers. They set loose explosives in the World trade Center.


In the same month, a Cairo café attack slew three via bomb.


In April 1993, former US President George Bush was under assassination attack while in Kuwait.


In June 1993, Islamics ambush UN peacekeeping personnel, killing 23.


In August 1993, Islamics kill 4 from US in Somalia.


In September 1993, Muslim murderers shot down US UH-60 blackhawk over Mogadishu. Servicemen’s bodies were strewn in the streets. In October, American service personnel’s bodies were dragged through the avenues of Mogadishu.


In July 1994, a bomb explosion set by Islamics in Buenos Aires, laid low Jewish organization headquarters, killing over 85, wounding over 200.


In December 1994, an Islamic bomb on Philippine Airlines Flight 434 killed Haruki Ikegami, Japanese businessman.


In that same month, Armed Islamic Group took hold of Air France Flight to Algeria.


In March 1995, Islamics opened fire on US Consulate van in Karachi, slaying two US diplomats and wounding a third.


In September 1995, a grenade was thrown through the US Embassy window, Moscow.


In November 1995, a car bomb at Riyadh, Saudi Arabia, US military location slew seven, wounding 60. Islamist Movement for Change and Fighting Advocates of God took responsibility.


In that same month, a suicide bomber killed 16 at the Egyptian Embassy, Islamabad, Pakistan.


In February 1996, Muslims in Egypt took a Coptic village, leveling homes, animal, crops and fields.


In June 1996, a fuel truck exploded near Dharan, Saudi Arabia with 19 Americans slain by Husbollah.


In August 1996, French Archbishop of Oran’s home was bombed, slaying him and his chauffeur. The Algerian Armed Islamic Group did it.


In December 1996, a Paris subway train was exploded, killing four, wounding 86.


In February 1997, a dozen Coptic Christians are killed while worship in their Abu Quorcas church.


In the same month, an Islamic teacher fired at tourists at the Empire State Building New York, NY. A Danish national was killed, visitors were wounded.


In November 1997, Islamics slew four American auditors for Union Texas Petroleum Company and their Pakistani driver in Karachi. The Islamic Inqilabi Council and the Aimal Secret Committee said they did it.


In the same month, 58 were slain by murderers at the Hatshepsut’s Temple, Egypt.


In August 1998, bombs bases the US embassies in Nairobi, Kenya, and Dar es Salaam, Tanzania. Blasts slew 247 in Nairobi and 10 in Dar es Salaam, more then 5000 wounded.


In November 1999, rockets fired at US Information Services cultural center and UN offices in Islamabad, Pakistan, wounded Pakistani guard.


In January 2000, Coptic Christians’ funeral in El-Kosheh, Egypt, due to Muslim murderers’ attack.


In October 2000, USS Cole’s port side view shows damage via Muslim attack via bomb explosion during refueling in Aden, Yemen. Seventeen sailors were slain, 30 wounded. Bin Laden: the ship sailed “to its doom. . .(along a course of ) false arrogance, self-conceit, and strength.”


In December 2000, Muslim on his way to bomb Los Angeles Airport is arrested at US / Canadian border. He has over 100 pounds of explosives in his vehicle. Algerian Ahmed Ressam informs authorities that he was schooled in a camp in Afghanistan, the latter overseen by bin Laden.


On September 11, 2001, Islamic killers international highjack planes, then crash into the World Trade Center, New York, killing more than 5000. Soon thereafter another hijacked plane smashes into the Pentagon. Sixty-four passengers and crew as well as 125 military and civilian personnel were slain with 80 wounded. Another hijacked plane with 44 onboard crashed into Shanksville PA field. All were slain by Arab Islamic zealots.


In October 2001, Muslim murderers slay worshipers in Tomata Indonesian church.


In the same month, Muslim killers shoot into church, slaying 18, in Bahawalpur, Model Town, Pakistan.


In December 2001, Muslim murderers slay Christian community, killing five, in Vwang, Nigeria.


In January 2002, Daniel Pearl, Wall Street Journal reporter, was kidnapped by Muslim murderers in Karachi. He was later slain.


In February 2002, worshipers in a Coptic Church in Egypt were set afire.


In that same month, three Christians were murdered by Islamics in Ilorin, Nigeria.


In that same month in Amman, Jordan, a vehicle was blown apart via car bomb, slaying an Egyptian and Iraqi laborer. The car was owned by the wife of the head of the Jordanian
Anti-Terrorism Unit.


In March 2002 in Islamabad Pakistan, five are slain via grenade in a church. Forty-seven are wounded.


In April 2002 in Tunisia, Islamic suicide bombers kills 26 in historic synagogue. Islamic Army for the Liberation of the Holy Sites says they did it.


In the same month, Muslim killers slay twelve worshipers in a Christian village, leaving six wounded.


In May 2002 in Pakistan, a bus exploded, murdering 12 and wounding 19. Al-Qaida was suspected.


In the same month in Kapiisk, Russia, Muslim murderers set loose a bomb in the bushes that slew 42, wounding 150 others. Islamic al-Qaida suspected.


In May 2002, car bombs explode near US Consulate and Marriott Hotel in Karachi, Pakistan with eleven dead and 51 wounded. Al-Qaida suspected.


In June 2002, Islamic killers fired into a Neelum Valley, Pakistani bus, forcing it over a cliff, killing 10 persons, injuring 12 others.


In July 2002, grenades thrown into tourists in Mansebra.


In August 2002, six missionaries taken, two beheaded, in the Philippines. In Jhika Gali, Murree, Pakistan, at a Christian missionary school six are slain and four wounded in Islamic murdering attack against believers.


In August 2002, Kabul Afghanistan witnesses bomb explosion outside UN guesthouse, two wounded. Muslim killers suspected.


In September 2002 in Ahmedabad India, Muslims attack and slay Hindu monks and dozens of worshipers in a temple. Lashkar-e-Toiba takes responsibility.


In October 2002 in Dhabbah, Yemen, explosives kill one and wound four on French oil tanker Limburg.


In October 2002 in Kuwait, Muslims kill one US Marine and wound another as the latter are conducting a non-live-fire exercise.


In the same month in Bali, 187 tourists are slain by Muslim murderers at San Club on Legian Street. Al-Qaida told press they did it.


In November 2002 in Mombaasa Kenya, 15 killed by suicide bomber, 40 wounded. Al-Ittihad suspected.


In the same month in Mombasa Kenya, two SA-7 Strela antiaircraft missiles were launched but missed downing a Arkia Boeing 757. Al-Qaida, the Government of Universal Palestine in Exile, and the Army of Palestine claimed they did it.


In December 2002 in Makassar Indonesia, McDonald’s restaurant is exploded via bomb, 3 killed, 11 wounded. Laskar Jundullah did it.


In December 2002, three worshipers are slain and fourteen wounded in church in Daska Pakistan. Muslims are suspected.


In February 2003, Muslims kill fourteen and wound 8 worshipers in Christian village in Philippines.


In March 2003 in Mindanao, Philippines, a bus is attacked by Moro Islamic Liberation Front, killing nine and injuring four.


In April 2003 in Davao Philippines, a bomb kills 15 and wounds 55. Jemaah Islamiyah is responsible.


In May 2003, suicide bombers storm a residential complex in Riyadh, Saudi Arabia, leaving 35 dead, wounding 200. Al-Qaeda suspected.


In May 2003, bomb attacks in Casablanca fly into restaurant, hotel, Jewish cemetery, Jewish Community Center and Belgian Consulate, leaving 33 dead and 101 wounded. Salfiya Jihadiya suspected.


In July 2003, a Catholic priest in Ranala Kot, Pakistan, was shot and slain in his home. Muslim “fundamentalists” are said to have done it.


In August 2003, Jakarta, Indonesia, Marriott hotel is bombed, killing 10, wounding 150. Jemaah Islamiyah suspected.


In the same month, a truck exploded in Baghdad, Iraq, killing 23, wounding 100.


In September 2003, a car bomb exploded near UN headquarters, killing a guard and wounding 18 in Baghdad, Iraq.


In October 2003, a car bomb exploded at Baghdad Hotel housing US and Iraqi officials, leaving 38 dead and 45 wounded.


In November 2003, a rocket was set loose in Kabul, Afghanistan. Taliban and al-Qaida suspected.


In December 2003, Kerbala government and foreign troops’ buildings were attacked by Muslim suicide squads, killing 19, wounding 120.


In the same month, in Baghdad, Iraq, car bombs exploded outside Nabil Restaurant, eight killed, 35 wounded.


In January 2004 in Marathiwat, Thailand, Islamic killers stormed an armory, setting it on fire as well as burning 18 schools, leaving four dead and an unknown number wounded.


In the same month, suicide car bombs strike US-led coalition’s offices in Baghdad, Iraq, killing 31.


In February 2004, Islamic killers blow up an automobile packed with explosives in a crowd of Iraqis lined up outside an army recruiting building in Baghdad.


In the same month, Muslim murderers slay 49 farming community laborers in Nigeria. They had taken refuge in a church.


In the same month in Manveles, Philippines, Abu Sayyaf’s group bombed a ferry, killing 200.


In March 2004, Muslim attackers killed 185 Iraqis in Baghdad and Karbala, Iraq, as they attended shrines.


In the same month, Muslim bombs attacked a commuter train complex in Madrid, Spain, killing 191, wounding 1,800. It was the deadliest attack since Lockerbie bombing in 1988 in Europe.


In the same month, nine from US were slain by Islamics via bomb explosion near Fallujah.


In April 2004, five suicide bombs exploded near police headquarters and academy with 74 slain and l160 wounded.


In the same month, Islamic killers via suicide car bomb slew 5 and wounded 150 in Riyadh.


In the same month, 24 were slain via roadside bomb hitting bus in Baghdad, Iraq.


In May 2004 in Saudi Arabia, Muslims slew six in attack on Western oil company offices in Red Sea city of Yanbu. The slain were then dragged through the streets.


In the same month in Fallujah, Iraq, four were slain via grenade. Mobs dragged the corpses through the streets.


In the same month, Islamics show video of beheading a man who was identified as Nick Berg from Philadelphia.


In the same month, 11 Christians were burnt alive by Islamics in two churches in Nigeria.


In the same month, President of Iraqi Governing Council Izzadine Saleem is slain by Islamic murderers.


In the same month, two are slain by a bomb at a shrine. Fifty others were wounded.


In the same month, in Ambon, Indonesia, bombs kill one and injure 13 in a Christian neighborhood. Another bomb goes off near a church.


In the same month in Barentu Nrritrea, seven are slain and 80 wounded by bomb blast.


In the same month in Pattani Thailand, Islamics kidnap Buddhist civilian, then behead him.


In the same month in Turbat Pakistan, Islamics kill a 14-year-old boy and dozens are injured in a rocket attack against the Minister of Education.


In June 2004, bombs explode close to US base in Beiji, slaying 11 and wounding 22.


In the same month in Rihadh, Frank Gardner, BBC’s security correspondent, was critically injured and his cameraman Simon Cumbers was slain.


In the same month, car bombs exploded near American base in Taji, killing nine, wounding 30.


In the same month, car bomb explodes, killing US solider and five Iraqis with 15 others wounded.


In the same month, Muslims down Robert Jacob, American working for Vinnell Corp, Riyadh.


In the same month, suicide car bomb kills 12 in Baghdad, Iraq.


In the same month, car bombs explode in Baghdad, slaying 13. Crowd dances in the streets, showing “Down with the USA!”


In the same month, artillery shells slay 35, wound 138 in Baghdad, Iraq.


In the same month, US hostage Paul Marshal Johnson, American engineer for Lockheed Martin, is beheaded by Al-Qaeda.


In the same month in Zainapora India, Lashkar-e-Toiba murders kidnap two, later slitting their throats.


In July 2004 in Jakarta Indonesia, a priest was slain and four wounded when gunmen attacked their church. It was near the site where over 2000 Christians have been slain by Muslims.


Source: Obsession. Vist: http://www.honestreporting.com/obsession/timeline.htm

OBAMA GIDDY AFTER MUSLIM SLAUGHTERED OUR OWN

J. Grant Swank, Jr.


Barack Hussein Obama was feting a gala for native Americans in Washington when he got the news about a Muslim killing military personnel at Fort Hood.


Those witnessing the President’s demeanor were shocked. He was giddy, involved in childplay behavior, and joshing with those nibbling and chatting.


He maintained that manner while others were in shock, weeping because dead bodies were strewn about. They were squeezed between sanity and utter frustration. They were distraught beyond words.


However, America’s leader was partying and not about to stop. He was slap happy and not about to move into anguish spent on those snuffed out by a crazed Islamic military psychiatrist who shouted praise to Allah as he pulled the trigger--repeatedly.


Even when Obama turned to state a few stumbling words of trumped comfort, he was not the grieving statesmen empathizing with the torn and ripped. He was jocular. He was distant.


Could it be that Obama understood that a Muslim conducted the slaughter? Obama, a Marxist Muslim, was caught between two worlds—America’s democracy and his own Muslim past.


He often in the past gave ultimate praise to Allah, the Koran and Islam. It’s there in the Internet files for those who research the content. It’s there on video for those desiring to read body language as well verbal content. The informed have taken it all in.


Obama is going to be confronted with like carnage in the future for in every climb of this Republic there are Muslims implanted. Obama knows that he has devout Muslims surrounding him in his czardom and shadow government.


Maine Senator Susan Collins told media this week that she is desperately concerned about Obama’s clique within the White House. The shadow government, she said, supplants other government departments with their own agendas.


In other words, Obama has told the official government departments to take a hike while his dictatorship rules from Pennsylvania Avenue, many of those on board loyal to Islam.


So there you have it: a President at play while the Fort Hood bloodied stain our history.


Keep tuned. There is more to uncover concerning this President who should have never landed in the Oval Office. But mob hysteriacs put him there on the wave of crazed emotion. And now we reap what the dumb warriors put before us.


Read “Obama's Frightening Insensitivity Following Shooting” at http://www.nbcchicago.com/news/politics/A-Disconnected-President.html


Read MUSLIM KILLS AT FORT HOOD at http://www.allvoices.com/contributed-news/4562947-muslim-kills-at-fort-hood

Thursday, November 5, 2009

NAZNET UNFAIRLY DELETES ROBERT HARTMAN’S INPUT ON SITE

J. Grant Swank, Jr.



It is sad that NazNet continues its unfair mode by deleting Robert Hartman’s input on the site. That input delivered a defense of my character and writing style, the latter constantly derided by responders on the site.



Those responders were granted full permission by the site moderator Barbara Moulton to continue their snide remarks; but Mr. Hartman’s courteous statements were consider cause for the moderator to close off discussion.


One cannot now find on the Internet Mr. Hartman’s logical and rightful comments for the site overseers, Hans Deventer in particular, have noted on that discussion slide that those overseers have deliberately deleted Mr. Hartman’s input from the discussion.


These overseers state that Mr. Hartman’s registration on NazNet is suspect. They state that his email address is not legitimate. In fact, his email address is quite legitimate. How they reached that conclusion is suspect and of course bogus.


The obvious is that overseers now conclude that Mr. Hartman’s comments are legitimate. Being so, the overseers don’t want the public to read them, so they have deleted them.


Again, NazNet takes the low road, unethical for certain. Yet NazNet prides itself on being a morally based evangelical Internet site. Not so, evidently.


I ask NazNet to return Mr. Hartman’s input to that site so that readers can read for themselves what he stated. Let the readers decide if Mr. Hartman’s input was cause for closing down discussion.


Note original post below. Note that where the reader is directed to read Mr. Hartman’s own posts that that will not work. Clicking on that link data will not produce that which NazNet has deleted for fear that Mr. Hartman’s logic will hold sway.


CHURCH OF THE NAZARENE: NAZNET WEBSITE UNFAIR


J. Grant Swank, Jr.


There on NazNet website was a discussion regarding my EASTERN NAZARENE COLLLEGE ANTICHRISTIAN PLAY PRESENTED post recently on numerous sites. Read http://www.naznet.com/community/showthread.php?t=28930


The NazNet discussion was particularly mean regarding me and my writing content and style.


I was born into the Church of the Nazarene which is basically unofficially the dialogue base of this website. I pastored in that denomination from 1964-1998.


Now my posts regarding the antiChristian drama presentation at my alma mater becomes, not by my submission by the way, a discussion piece on NazNet.


With that, people who know me and don’t know me plow in. Their remarks are so cheap and slap-stick pocking that it is unbearable to imagine that a Church of the Nazarene-related website would tolerate such tawdry fare, especially when it is so derision-based against a pastor—myself.


Then friend Robert Hartman enters the discussion with a gentlemanly polite defense of Grant Swank, his writings over half a century and his biblical convictions.


That raises the ire of responders all the more. They become even more vicious, nasty and, yes, unChristian in the guise of appearing spiritually excellent.


Now the moderator of that particular discussion point closes down the site. But it is not in the midst of responders’ discourteous slams against me. It is when Robert Hartman logically, courteously defends my character and writings. Read http://www.naznet.com/community/showthread.php?t=28930&page=17


Moderator Barbara Moulton closes down the discussion by disciplining Robert Hartman. It is his comment input that is put down as the necessity for stopping all further remarks.


What?


Nasty, mean-spirited cheap comments can flow like a river without Moulton’s interference. However, when Robert Hartman enters to rightfully defend me and my positions, he is the villain who has brought an end to that discussion thread.


NazNet, if you reflect the Church of the Nazarene in present tense, the denomination is in sad shape. Sad sad shape indeed.


By the way, I checked out other NazNet discussion slides and find that often the same few responders are floating from dissuasion slide to discussion slide. There are not countless individuals involved in the NazNet site.


In addition, I came upon the NazNet discussions regarding the Eucharist. May I ask what “Eucharist” has to do with the Church of the Nazarene? Everyone in religious studies knows that the Church of the Nazarene has never long-term history spoken of communion by the term “Eucharist.” It has always been called “communion” or “the Lord’s supper.”


Does this Eucharist nomenclature simply expose the small grouping of elitist Nazarenes who are pushing for a complete change within the denomination? I have heard that there are those desiring to erase the past heritage of the Nazarene worship style for a mimicking of high church whatever.


By reading the comments on the NazNet discussion slide regarding the Eucharist, I would conclude that these wise-guys are part of the elitist crew who have no idea what they are talking about. They simply go on and on to impress one another as some sort of intellectuals into ritual this-and-that.


All in all, NazNet lacks quality, intellectual excellence and spiritual loyalty to the Scripture, particularly the Bible’s accent on holiness. That is a travesty.


It does not look healthy for the Church of the Nazarene if NazNet reflects that denomination.


Read I BELIEVE IN MIRACLES: GOD PROVISIONS at http://jgrantswankjr.blogspot.com/2009/03/i-believe-in-miracles-god-provisions.html

MUSLIM KILLS AT FORT HOOD

J. Grant Swank, Jr.


A Muslim followed his Islamic catechism by shooting down our own troops defending the Republic.


How many more Muslims in uniform will follow suit? Time will tell.


There cannot be enough scouring Muslims in uniform as well as Muslims in Congress and Muslims in Barrack Hussein Obama’s czardom shadow government.


They are there. Why? Because Marxist Muslim Obama blesses their presence there.


Muslim Maj. Malik Nadal Hasan is a psychiatrist recently reassigned from Walter Reed Army Medical Center in Washington, D.C. to work with soldiers at Darnall Army Medical Center on Fort Hood.


According to FOX News, Hasan said the following: “Muslims should stand up against the aggressor.”


And who in his head is the “aggressor”? It is the United States.


“We should get out” of Iraq and Afghanistan is what he publicly claimed.


Those in military listening to his rants would warn one another that the “ragheads” might someday turn against our military. That happened on November 5 in a horrific manner.


Regarding Muslim suicide bombers, Hasan said: “Maybe we should have more of these strapping bombs on themselves” in the United States, per FOX News.


He made comments regarding Obama, focusing on hoping that Obama would pull troops out of Iraq and Afghanistan. Hasan said things would then settle down.


When Obama did not do that, Hasan became more frustrated with our troops there.


Those of us who have warned in post after post concerning Muslims in America have often been considered outlandishly alarmist.


Events prove we have been realists. We are simply realists who are trying to warn the uninformed or those hysterically loyal to Obama.


Thank God this traitor is still alive. Now Hasan can be interrogated to the nth degree, uncovering layer by layer what it is like to be an Islamic infiltrator in the military.


Then we as grassroots citizens can turn on Congress and Obama’s shadow government to expose individuals who are Hasan clones intent on submerging our democracy.

YOU PAY ABORTIONS, PELOSI

J. Grant Swank, Jr.


House Speaker Nancy Pelosi is so intent on slaughtering womb babies that she vows to cement it in the blanket health care travesty.


For those who want to read Pelosi’s killer sentence, go to line 16, page 96, section 213, under 'Insurance Rating Rules.'


Pelosi prides herself on being a model mother. Her husband and children sit alongside her in family photos. There you have it—the liberal American household with smiling-teeth Mom at the center.


What an accomplished female she has become—from California on West Coast to Washington DC on East Coast. She’s the queen mother of the nation, bound to set us free from biblical values. She’s worked night
and day with liberal chaps of like evil bent to undercut every scriptural ethic.


Pelosi, Catholic, detests the Roman Catholic moral base endorsed by devout biblical churchmen and women. She does not mind flying in the face of her own spiritual leaders worldwide.


Pelosi writes her own religion. I recall what a hypocritical face she wore months back when standing in a group of Congresspersons, she was quoted as saying, “That’s what church is for, isn’t
it?”


Those white teeth and broad smile circled her words of religiosity. She was responding to some inane comment about religion. With that, she saw her opportunity to court real believers by sliding in the word “church.” How dumb does she think we are? Pretty dumb, obviously.


This space cadet of a House Speaker is so dangerous. She stands next in line to Marxist Muslim Barack Hussein Obama. The two are out to rob the Republic of its Christian heritage. Total secularization is their aim. Ditto Europe’s godlessness.


Now with the health plan propped for a “go,” she does not renege regarding the sentence sentencing womb infants to the dumpster.


With that one sentence, all of us would be paying out for the guillotine laced around every unborn babies’ neck. Is this what America at its best stands for?


It’s time to dump Pelosi and all her cadre. It’s time to take advantage of the recent moralist surge in November’s elections.

Wednesday, November 4, 2009

CHURCH OF THE NAZARENE: NAZNET WEBSITE UNFAIR

J. Grant Swank, Jr.


There on NazNet website was a discussion regarding my EASTERN NAZARENE COLLLEGE ANTICHRISTIAN PLAY PRESENTED post recently on numerous sites. Read http://www.naznet.com/community/showthread.php?t=28930


The NazNet discussion was particularly mean regarding me and my writing content and style.


I was born into the Church of the Nazarene which is basically unofficially the dialogue base of this website. I pastored in that denomination from 1964-1998.


Now my posts regarding the antiChristian drama presentation at my alma mater becomes, not by my submission by the way, a discussion piece on NazNet.


With that, people who know me and don’t know me plow in. Their remarks are so cheap and slap-stick pocking that it is unbearable to imagine that a Church of the Nazarene-related website would tolerate such tawdry fare, especially when it is so derision-based against a pastor—myself.


Then friend Robert Hartman enters the discussion with a gentlemanly polite defense of Grant Swank, his writings over half a century and his biblical convictions.


That raises the ire of responders all the more. They become even more vicious, nasty and, yes, unChristian in the guise of appearing spiritually excellent.


Now the moderator of that particular discussion point closes down the site. But it is not in the midst of responders’ discourteous slams against me. It is when Robert Hartman logically, courteously defends my character and writings. Read http://www.naznet.com/community/showthread.php?t=28930&page=17


Moderator Barbara Moulton closes down the discussion by disciplining Robert Hartman. It is his comment input that is put down as the necessity for stopping all further remarks.


What?


Nasty, mean-spirited cheap comments can flow like a river without Moulton’s interference. However, when Robert Hartman enters to rightfully defend me and my positions, he is the villain who has brought an end to that discussion thread.


NazNet, if you reflect the Church of the Nazarene in present tense, the denomination is in sad shape. Sad sad shape indeed.


By the way, I checked out other NazNet discussion slides and find that often the same few responders are floating from dissuasion slide to discussion slide. There are not countless individuals involved in the NazNet site.


In addition, I came upon the NazNet discussions regarding the Eucharist. May I ask what “Eucharist” has to do with the Church of the Nazarene? Everyone in religious studies knows that the Church of the Nazarene has never long-term history spoken of communion by the term “Eucharist.” It has always been called “communion” or “the Lord’s supper.”


Does this Eucharist nomenclature simply expose the small grouping of elitist Nazarenes who are pushing for a complete change within the denomination? I have heard that there are those desiring to erase the past heritage of the Nazarene worship style for a mimicking of high church whatever.


By reading the comments on the NazNet discussion slide regarding the Eucharist, I would conclude that these wise-guys are part of the elitist crew who have no idea what they are talking about. They simply go on and on to impress one another as some sort of intellectuals into ritual this-and-that.


All in all, NazNet lacks quality, intellectual excellence and spiritual loyalty to the Scripture, particularly the Bible’s accent on holiness. That is a travesty.


It does not look healthy for the Church of the Nazarene if NazNet reflects that denomination.


Read I BELIEVE IN MIRACLES: GOD PROVISIONS at http://jgrantswankjr.blogspot.com/2009/03/i-believe-in-miracles-god-provisions.html

NAZNET WEBSITE UNFAIR

J. Grant Swank, Jr.


There on NazNet website was a discussion regarding my EASTERN NAZARENE COLLLEGE ANTICHRISTIAN PLAY PRESENTED post recently on numerous sites. Read http://www.naznet.com/community/showthread.php?t=28930


The NazNet discussion was particularly mean regarding me and my writing content and style.


I was born into the Church of the Nazarene which is basically unofficially the dialogue base of this website. I pastored in that denomination from 1964-1998.


Now my posts regarding the antiChristian drama presentation at my alma mater becomes, not by my submission by the way, a discussion piece on NazNet.


With that, people who know me and don’t know me plow in. Their remarks are so cheap and slap-stick pocking that it is unbearable to imagine that a Church of the Nazarene-related website would tolerate such tawdry fare, especially when it is so derision-based against a pastor—myself.


Then friend Robert Hartman enters the discussion with a gentlemanly polite defense of Grant Swank, his writings over half a century and his biblical convictions.


That raises the ire of responders all the more. They become even more vicious, nasty and, yes, unChristian in the guise of appearing spiritually excellent.


Now the moderator of that particular discussion point closes down the site. But it is not in the midst of responders’ discourteous slams against me. It is when Robert Hartman logically, courteously defends my character and writings. Read http://www.naznet.com/community/showthread.php?t=28930&page=17


Moderator Barbara Moulton closes down the discussion by disciplining Robert Hartman. It is his comment input that is put down as the necessity for stopping all further remarks.


What?


Nasty, mean-spirited cheap comments can flow like a river without Moulton’s interference. However, when Robert Hartman enters to rightfully defend me and my positions, he is the villain who has brought an end to that discussion thread.


NazNet, if you reflect the Church of the Nazarene in present tense, the denomination is in sad shape. Sad sad shape indeed.


By the way, I checked out other NazNet discussion slides and find that often the same few responders are floating from dissuasion slide to discussion slide. There are not countless individuals involved in the NazNet site.


In addition, I came upon the NazNet discussions regarding the Eucharist. May I ask what “Eucharist” has to do with the Church of the Nazarene? Everyone in religious studies knows that the Church of the Nazarene has never long-term history spoken of communion by the term “Eucharist.” It has always been called “communion” or “the Lord’s supper.”


Does this Eucharist nomenclature simply expose the small grouping of elitist Nazarenes who are pushing for a complete change within the denomination? I have heard that there are those desiring to erase the past heritage of the Nazarene worship style for a mimicking of high church whatever.


By reading the comments on the NazNet discussion slide regarding the Eucharist, I would conclude that these wise-guys are part of the elitist crew who have no idea what they are talking about. They simply go on and on to impress one another as some sort of intellectuals into ritual this-and-that.


All in all, NazNet lacks quality, intellectual excellence and spiritual loyalty to the Scripture, particularly the Bible’s accent on holiness. That is a travesty.


It does not look healthy for the Church of the Nazarene if NazNet reflects that denomination.


Read I BELIEVE IN MIRACLES: GOD PROVISIONS at http://jgrantswankjr.blogspot.com/2009/03/i-believe-in-miracles-god-provisions.html

MAINE CHRISTIANS THANKFUL NO-GAY-NUPS WON HERE

J. Grant Swank, Jr.


Our Maine Christians are rejoicing in the aftermath of the voters’ support for the biblical definition of marriage.


Those chanting for homosexual nuptials lost, though into Tuesday evening it appeared as if they might win. It was not till this morning that I learned the win news.


Countless biblical believers have worked hard to support God’s view of marriage. They have prayed, phoned, given money, and voted. Now this morning they reap their win on behalf of scriptural truth.


On Tuesday evening it was nauseating to see one more time Maine’s governor take center stage with TV coverage as he proudly endorsed that which God abhors. So goes our political leadership in this naturally endowed state.


Maine is gorgeous in nature’s splendor—at any season. That’s why my wife and I concluded that in all the places we have lived, Maine tops them all—equal to our home in Nova Scotia.


Anywhere in Maine one can travel a short distance to entertain God’s pristine wonders unspoiled by human’s mess machine. We’ve lived in Indiana, Kansas, New York, Ohio, Massachusetts, Maryland, and Missouri. But Maine outstrips them all when it comes to God’s handiwork.


It is so sad that much of anti-God plugging goes on in this naturally gifted environs. We have both extremes—the splendor provided by the Creator and the wretched schemes of the ungodly.


However, midst all that are bedrock Christians. They wed with one another in this fight against evil and they won out for the moral base of Maine. This has been one tough going. However, believers relied on prayer power and God’s guidance every step of the way.


The Maine legislature and governor dictated a homosexual rule in the state, even called sodomy “marriage.” However, grassroots voters won out for biblical ethics. The legislature and governor now sit in the back seat. Will they remain there and turn toward more noble goals? Only time will tell.


However, Maine being what it is, no doubt the immoral renegades will resurface immediately. However, the Christians will not back off. They remain loyal to the eternal verities, blessed by the God of the Bible.


Read “Maine Voters Reject Gay Marriage Law” at http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2009/11/03/gay-marriage-vote-close-maine/